On this episode CLOUSER shares a recent conversation with his son, Patrick, who works in the laboratory of a large healthcare organization. Heidi Bird joins the discussion as young CLOUSER explains the role he and his co-workers perform in the battle to fight COVID -19. Listen as Patrick describes some early vital responsibilities the laboratory played in establishing testing standards. Guest shares the path he took to became a young scientist working in the laboratory including education and certification programs.

css.php